Comments on: The Missing Subsonic .22LR Market http://emptormaven.com/2009/11/the-missing-subsonic-22lr-market/ Oiling the Gears of Capitalism with Information Mon, 19 Jul 2010 14:58:46 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Twrecks http://emptormaven.com/2009/11/the-missing-subsonic-22lr-market/comment-page-1/#comment-2668 Twrecks Tue, 13 Apr 2010 02:06:50 +0000 http://emptormaven.com/?p=330#comment-2668 I too have been wondering for several years at the lack of heavier 22 ammo...especially since most .22 plinking and pest control is done below 50 yards...or perhaps even less than 50 ft. I'm just an amateur...but I have come across the 1:9 ratio for 10/22 rifle barrels designed around the subsonic rounds. Has there been a comparison of 1:9 vs 1:12 barrels with the different subsonics? Interestingly enough I just last week emailed Tactical Solutions last week asking about 1:9 barrels for a Ruger MKIII or Buckmark for building a subsonic pistol built around the Aguila SSS 60 gr. round. They were quick to reply, but had not heard of any fast twist (1:12 or 1:9) pistol barrels. I'm going to see if they would do a prototype/custom buckmark barrel for me and see what they quote me. Here is an interesting technical discussion with some Aguila SSS 60 info as well: http://guns.connect.fi/gow/QA5.html Perhaps someone can influence CCI to develop a series of quality, heavy, copper coated 50-60 grain .22's for the good of mankind. Hopefully they are taking notice of all the interest and increasing sales of the Aguila SSS 60's. Here are some 1:9 barrels...with threaded end options! http://www.hi-desertdog.com/index.php?_a=viewCat&catId=23 http://www.eabco.com/cgi-bin/shopper.exe?preadd=action&key=127-182 There seems to be a trend developing...hopefully. Regards. I too have been wondering for several years at the lack of heavier 22 ammo…especially since most .22 plinking and pest control is done below 50 yards…or perhaps even less than 50 ft.

I’m just an amateur…but I have come across the 1:9 ratio for 10/22 rifle barrels designed around the subsonic rounds. Has there been a comparison of 1:9 vs 1:12 barrels with the different subsonics?

Interestingly enough I just last week emailed Tactical Solutions last week asking about 1:9 barrels for a Ruger MKIII or Buckmark for building a subsonic pistol built around the Aguila SSS 60 gr. round. They were quick to reply, but had not heard of any fast twist (1:12 or 1:9) pistol barrels. I’m going to see if they would do a prototype/custom buckmark barrel for me and see what they quote me. Here is an interesting technical discussion with some Aguila SSS 60 info as well:

http://guns.connect.fi/gow/QA5.html

Perhaps someone can influence CCI to develop a series of quality, heavy, copper coated 50-60 grain .22’s for the good of mankind. Hopefully they are taking notice of all the interest and increasing sales of the Aguila SSS 60’s.

Here are some 1:9 barrels…with threaded end options!

http://www.hi-desertdog.com/index.php?_a=viewCat&catId=23

http://www.eabco.com/cgi-bin/shopper.exe?preadd=action&key=127-182

There seems to be a trend developing…hopefully.

Regards.

]]> By: EmptorMaven » Blog Archive » Products I’m looking for in 2010 http://emptormaven.com/2009/11/the-missing-subsonic-22lr-market/comment-page-1/#comment-1420 EmptorMaven » Blog Archive » Products I’m looking for in 2010 Fri, 15 Jan 2010 17:33:07 +0000 http://emptormaven.com/?p=330#comment-1420 [...] As I wrote late last year, there are significant benefits to be had with heavier subsonic .22LR ammu.... I hope ammunition manufacturers step up their offerings of .22LR with bullets bigger than 40gr, and that .22LR barrel manufacturers switch to the higher twist-rates needed to shoot the stuff well. [...] [...] As I wrote late last year, there are significant benefits to be had with heavier subsonic .22LR ammu…. I hope ammunition manufacturers step up their offerings of .22LR with bullets bigger than 40gr, and that .22LR barrel manufacturers switch to the higher twist-rates needed to shoot the stuff well. [...]

]]> By: federalist http://emptormaven.com/2009/11/the-missing-subsonic-22lr-market/comment-page-1/#comment-1209 federalist Sun, 27 Dec 2009 00:20:04 +0000 http://emptormaven.com/?p=330#comment-1209 Col. Meyer, Glad you enjoyed <a href="http://emptormaven.com/2006/12/target-pistol-browning-buck-mark-22-with-gemtech-outback-ii-suppressor/" rel="nofollow">the article</a>. You should definitely ask for military discounts when buying guns and accessories. Not everyone offers them, but it doesn't cost to ask, and it pays when they do! Regarding the cleaning: I can't help myself, but I've begun to realize that most guns don't need to be kept in the pristine condition I prefer. When I shot rifle in high school we would only clean our Anshutz .22s at the beginning and end of a season! Of course a semi-auto like the Buckmark isn't going to tolerate dirt as well as a bolt gun, but when I get back to shooting mine I'm going to try just lubing the action without disassembling it, and maybe using an Otis cleaning kit (with flexible rod) to pull patches through the bore. We'll see how that goes.... Col. Meyer,

Glad you enjoyed the article. You should definitely ask for military discounts when buying guns and accessories. Not everyone offers them, but it doesn’t cost to ask, and it pays when they do!

Regarding the cleaning: I can’t help myself, but I’ve begun to realize that most guns don’t need to be kept in the pristine condition I prefer. When I shot rifle in high school we would only clean our Anshutz .22s at the beginning and end of a season! Of course a semi-auto like the Buckmark isn’t going to tolerate dirt as well as a bolt gun, but when I get back to shooting mine I’m going to try just lubing the action without disassembling it, and maybe using an Otis cleaning kit (with flexible rod) to pull patches through the bore. We’ll see how that goes….

]]> By: Richard Meyer http://emptormaven.com/2009/11/the-missing-subsonic-22lr-market/comment-page-1/#comment-1208 Richard Meyer Sat, 26 Dec 2009 20:28:46 +0000 http://emptormaven.com/?p=330#comment-1208 Happy New Year! I LOVED, LOVED, LOVED your article on the Buckmark with the tactical solutions barrell and the Gemtech supressor!!! You have me all set to order my parts now to emulate your weapon! I was especially impressed with the technical aspect of the 4 inch barrel preventing a supersonic bullet – I would not have thought of that!!! Many thanks! Can you hook me up with Gemtech for a mil discount on the supressor and/or Tactical Solutions as I am an USAF active duty fighter pilot? One last thing… what the HELL was Browning thinking when they made this wonderful pistol SO damned hard to clean? I can clean five AR-15s in less time and with much less worry of damaging the weapons I am cleaning than when I clean my Buckmark!!!! My easiest and fastest to clean is the Ruger LCP!!! (15 minutes to take apart, clean and re-assemble!) SWEETNESS! Cheers and thanks for the great info! Richard A. Meyer, Lt Col, USAF Happy New Year!

I LOVED, LOVED, LOVED your article on the Buckmark with the tactical solutions barrell and the Gemtech supressor!!! You have me all set to order my parts now to emulate your weapon! I was especially impressed with the technical aspect of the 4 inch barrel preventing a supersonic bullet – I would not have thought of that!!!

Many thanks!

Can you hook me up with Gemtech for a mil discount on the supressor and/or Tactical Solutions as I am an USAF active duty fighter pilot?

One last thing… what the HELL was Browning thinking when they made this wonderful pistol SO damned hard to clean? I can clean five AR-15s in less time and with much less worry of damaging the weapons I am cleaning than when I clean my Buckmark!!!! My easiest and fastest to clean is the Ruger LCP!!! (15 minutes to take apart, clean and re-assemble!) SWEETNESS!

Cheers and thanks for the great info!

Richard A. Meyer, Lt Col, USAF

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